DJ Target: Talks About The Release Of His Book ‘Grime Kids’


On the eve of the release of ‘Grime Kids’ the whole grime community is waiting to see the story of a generation. I’ve been lucky enough to read ‘Grime Kids’ and what a book it is, DJ Target you’ve done an amazing job of sharing your story. From the origins of Grime right through to his life now, we see a perfectly crafted tale.

Massive blessings to DJ Target and his team who helped make this interview happen.


Thank you for doing the interview, how excited are you for the release of grime kids?

I’ve never been this excited, obviously I’ve released music over the years and been a producer, and stuff with Roll Deep and Pay As You Go. But this as a project is just something I’ve always thought of maybe doing and the fact that were on the brink of it coming out, I really want people to take in the story and be able to share the history.

look, I’m not a writer I haven’t done anything like that since school. The challenge for me was making sure it was like a book and it had different emotions and moments. It was pretty easy to remember the stuff that was the easy part.

I didn’t want any input from like a ghost-writer, I’ve heard stories of people having ghost-writers and the story being changed, them having their opinion and it basically not reading well. I wanted to try my best to tell the story.


What was it like to relive pivotal moments in grime, the essence of it and actually put that on paper?

You know what it was crazy like because most of that book got written between the hours of 1.00am and 4.00am, like after radio I’d get home, the wife is sleeping and my phone stops ringing, it would be silent and I’d have the laptop out and literally in my brain it was like watching a movie, it would be like what am I going to watch tonight, ok I’m going to watch the Pay As You Go movie and then I’d hit play, and in my head it’s just all coming back. At certain points I was like ringing people at 2.00am, I’d be like bruv I’m writing a book do you remember what happened or do you remember when we did that. I just had to talk about it, people like Flowdan and all that.

You covered so much that’s what I find so amazing, so much of the genre in less than 300 pages?

Yeah, again that was a challenge like, with just the memories alone it could’ve been like 500 pages. It could’ve been like a wild read, but, I wanted to take my time and not let it go away from what I wanted to achieve. I kind of started with the chapters, like the names and the contents because I was thinking do I just start writing it and then I got to the point when It wasn’t working or flowing how I wanted, so I was like let me turn out the important moments of grime, so, I started listing what I saw as pivotal moments of grime and then from that I started thinking of chapter titles, First of all I had 3-4 and I thought they were 100% chapter titles because I knew what I was going to put in those chapters and it just started to form around that.

Once I had a complete chapter list I would look at it, for example ‘Back to Basics’ I knew where it started and I had an idea of how I was going to get from the beginning to the end. I was giving those chapters justice and making sure that they weren’t overlapping each other. That’s another thing within the timeline some of the chapters do overlap, so I’d try not to repeat too many things and go in-depth at a later stage in ‘Grime Kids’

For you to mention Cardiff in the book, I’m from Cardiff so to actually see that in the book and to acknowledge cities where grime isn’t a main factor is very important?

These are the things I’m so glad that you’ve noticed like rah that’s such a small thing. It’s like the early days I can’t forget that because we were in Cardiff all the time. It’s just now the whole club life is changing, even London it’s changing.


We have to speak about that front cover though, did you always have that picture in mind?

Do you know what the cover came before the book. The cover kind of was one of the things that started the book. I’ve had that picture for years, I’ve had that photograph stashed away for years. I put it on Instagram and everyone was hitting me up like talking about that picture, and it made me think that people need to know what’s behind those pictures. DJ Semtex had just finished writing his book and he was like you need to write the grime one. It started to come at me from different angles and I was thinking like wow let me try to get the ball rolling and I just got on with it. Things were happening one after the other.

There was no question in mind what picture I wanted to use I didn’t even think about another picture. Before I had put down any words on the laptop I had that picture, that had to be the cover. I mean I just had to make sure Wiley was alright with it.


He’s gonna try to bring that outfit back?

Haha, you know what I see in the comments that he’s getting mocked for it, but back in the day that was the thing to wear. The back of the waistcoat was silk and had D&G at the back, but, bearing in mind it didn’t have any top buttons underneath. Like people look at that today and be like he’s dressing like Aladdin or something but back in the day he got major props for that outfit.


Grime Kids has 17 chapters but what’s your favourite chapter and why?

Oh that’s a good question actually, oh this is hard, but I’m going to pick 2. ‘Jungle is Massive’ which is actually the first chapter I wrote, I was on my honeymoon at the time and that whole honeymoon I was just listening to jungle by the pool and just remembering all the times. For my second it would have to be ‘In at the deep end’ that’s another one, but, it’s like having 16 kids and you have to pick a favourite. Like ‘Jungle is Massive’ is the most nostalgic and ‘In at the deep end’ was the most fun.


One thing I’ve always respected about you man is the amount of energy you have, doing radio and well before with Roll Deep and on your tracks. In your opinion do we see your personality in ‘Grime Kids?

Uh, yeah I think so, I didn’t want it to be so much about me, I didn’t want to talk about myself, with music I know exactly what I’m doing but with writing I hope that I can paint the picture. As a kid I used to read Roald Dahl books and when I was reading them I was seeing the visuals like and I wanted that to come across in ‘Grime Kids.’


As an Arsenal fan you’re obviously used to some struggles yeah? But what was the hardest thing you had to write about in the book?

The hardest thing probably was Wiley and Dizzee chapter, not necessarily hard I was just being careful how I approached that chapter. I wanted to tell the story but at the same time it’s such a grey area, they aren’t mates obviously now. I was going to talk about more detail about what happened but I realised I didn’t need much, when I say going into more detail not naming names or the situation but going into it a little more about the night and the following day. It’s a touchy subject, I mean I don’t know why they fell out, when you’re as close to the situation as I was and I don’t even know why they fell out, like everyone has their different theories like they think they know, like 100% my cousin told me this and all that, but, I was actually there and I don’t know. The only two people who really who know what happened are Wiley and Dizzee.


Can you imagine if they dropped a track in five years? 10 years, It’s something I want to see?

It would be mental, I was hoping for that, like as people get older they reconcile. But, knowing the pair of them it’s not an easy one, like there is a personality clash but deep down there is a brotherly thing, it’s not been erased it’s just so far to the back.
Maybe they’ will read ‘Grime Kids’ and think let’s do it, I’m gonna send them both a copy.

2008 did you and Wiley ever think you’d have a book out in 2018?

No way even in the intro I said that man. If someone said that to me in 2008 I would laugh at them. Like I don’t write books. Even as the years have gone on like You know you have the stories but who’s going to write it, but then as the time passes you think deep down I’m the only

one that can tell it, it’s been a process that’s slowly happened. 10 years ago I would have thought why would there be a book, I didn’t go to University I dropped out.


You did the recording for the audio , did you ever consider another voice or did you always want it to be yours?

As soon as they mentioned it I said I want to do it, like I’ve gone out of my way to write this book and it didn’t make sense for someone else to write this book. Like I’m on radio and I’m not shy to use my voice. During the recording of it I was thinking why did I have 16 chapters, it was long and I had to repeat it so many times. It was such a mad process and you get more tired as the it goes on.


Final question Target my bro, sum up ‘Grime Kids’ In one sentence?

“ohh, I’d say it’s the real history of the birth and journey of grime from an inside perspective.